Learn to Diagnose and Fix Catalytic Converter Issues
So, your check engine light is on, and you’ve got either a P0420 or P0430 code, on your OBD-II scanner. This “Catalyst system efficiency below threshold” code is triggered when your car’s computer (the powertrain or engine control module [PCM or ECM]) detects a catalytic converter issue.
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Check Engine Light? Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold – Code P0420, P0430
In this video, our mechanic explains how a catalytic converter’s efficiency is reduced when it’s clogged, which triggers one of these two error codes. Watch now:
What Are Codes P0420 and P0430, and What Do They Mean?
What are these “Catalyst system efficiency below threshold” codes, and how do they differ? Each code indicates where the problem triggering them is located:
- P0420, “Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)” means the problem causing it is happening in Bank 1 (where your vehicle’s cylinder number 1 is located).
- P0430, “Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 2)” means the issue triggering it is happening in Bank 2 (where your vehicle’s cylinder number 2 is located).
According to our mechanic, “Generally, this code means that you need a new catalytic converter.”
When your car’s catalytic converter is working correctly, it breaks down pollutants resulting from the combustion process so they’re less toxic and less release by the time they emit from the exhaust.
A code P0420 or P0430 means a catalytic converter isn’t performing as efficiently as it should. When this happens, it’s not able to break down all those harmful pollutants, and still releases them.
In the video above, our mechanic shows us two catalytic converters—one that’s clogged, and one that isn’t. She explains that the clogged catalytic converter’s filter, often referred to as “honeycomb,” prevents the correct amount of air from getting through, which can trigger a P0420 or P0430.
How Serious Are P0420 and P0430 Codes? Can I Drive with Them?
Usually by the time you’re aware of one of these codes, it’s too late and the damage has been done to your catalytic converter. If it isn’t replaced, it can get worse, becoming more plugged, which can cause weak acceleration.
What Are Common P0420 and P0430 Symptoms?
- Your check engine light is on
- Rough-running engine or lack of power
- Poor fuel economy
What Causes P0420 and P0430?
The most common P0420 and P0430 cause is a clogged catalytic converter filter, which requires replacing the entire catalytic converter.
Other causes can include:
- A faulty or failing o2 sensor
- Catalytic converter leaks
- Exhaust, intake, or mass airflow (MAF) sensor leaks or other issues
- Faulty or failing spark plugs, ignition coils, or a resulting misfire
- Fuel injector leaking too much fuel
- Faulty mechanical or internal engine components
- Lack of regular maintenance, such as not changing air filters, or oil or coolant getting into the exhaust because they weren’t changed
Can a Bad O2 Sensor Cause a P0420 code?
In this video, our mechanic explains how a bad O2 sensor can trigger a P0420 code.
Check Engine Light? Catalyst System Efficiency Or Bad O2 Sensor? – Code P0420/P0430
Our mechanic Andy says that a bad O2 sensor, or one that’s reading incorrectly, can cause a P0420 or P0430. However, too much fuel from a leaky fuel injector could be what caused the O2 sensor to go bad in the first place. He said they can also sometimes get stuck. Even if it’s clear that your catalytic converter needs to be replaced due to a clogged filter, Andy says it may be best to replace your O2 sensors at the same time, rather than take a chance.
If the downstream O2 sensor detects a limited amount of carbon dioxide, which means the catalytic converter isn’t able to effectively break down pollutants, that’s when a P0420 code is triggered.
To learn more about the difference between downstream and upstream O2 sensors from one of our mechanics, watch this video:
O2 Sensors: Is It Upstream or Downstream?
How Do I Diagnose and Fix Codes P0420 and P0430?
Our mechanic Andy says the reason the 2009 Chevy Malibu he works on in the video below has a P0420 code is that the two o2 sensors’ readings are off, and detect an issue in the catalytic converter.
Watch the full video for his expert help diagnosing and resolving a code P0420:
P0420 Check engine light how to fix it yourself
Check your catalytic converter for leaks
Andy recommends inspecting the back of your catalytic converter for leaks. That could cause a faulty reading from the downstream, or back, o2 sensor.
Inspect your catalytic converter’s filter, or screen, for clogging
Andy’s catalytic converter filter is plugged up, and he compares it to the one in a new catalytic converter, which doesn’t have anything obstructing it.
Other items to check out
Even though as Andy tells us, 99.9 percent of the time, a code P0420 or P0430 means you’ll need to replace your catalytic converter, he recommends checking out a few other items before replacing it:
- Make sure your engine is running properly.
- Check for any exhaust or intake leaks, including any that are past the MAF sensor, or for any other intake or MAF sensor problems.
- Make sure your spark plugs are in good shape and working right in order to avoid a misfire, which will only make matters worse by allowing fuel to get into the catalytic converter. If it looks like they could be causing the problem, replace them.
- Keep up on regular maintenance. This may sound obvious, but if you don’t properly maintain your car with regular oil and filter changes, your car is more likely to experience issues that trigger trouble codes like P0420 or 430.
- Inspect your o2 sensors. As Andy says in his video on P0420, it’s probably best to replace them at the same time you replace your clogged catalytic converter.
- If you have any other OBD-II codes, check those before replacing your catalytic converter! Catalytic converters are not cheap parts, so you should definitely check out any other codes your car has before buying one in case there’s actually something else causing the problem.
How Much Does It Cost to Fix Codes P0420 or P0430?
Depending on your vehicle, catalytic converters can range from a low of about $110 to upwards of $1,000. And that doesn’t include labor costs if you’re planning to have it replaced by a mechanic. Combined part and labor prices can range from about $400 to upwards of $2,000.
Depending on how many oxygen sensors you replace, the cost could be minimal, but you can find out how much it will cost for your year, make, and model on 1aauto.com.
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2 thoughts to “Check Engine Light and P0420 and P0430 Codes”
What can I check out,when my truck runs great m it doesn’t smoke, or have any smell like that from a bad cat. It really runs the same way as it always has. I cleaned up the k&n air filter and changed the fuel filter and the code po420 went away for a few weeks, but the service engine soon light is back on. I cleaned the senators in the neck of the air intake between the air filter and the carburetor. It don’t know what to check out. I can’t really see anything wrong with the exhaust system. Do you have any suggestions for me to try? Thank y’all for your assistance with my endeavors. Danny
K&N filter was my problem
The oil in it.